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Surprise Special: Behind the Masks - Immigration & Customs Enforcement

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What does immigration look like from inside the room where every word matters? I step behind the headlines to share what I’ve learned as a Mandarin interpreter working across ICE—moving from intake to medical checks to immigration court—translating for people who’ve crossed jungles, oceans, and moral gray areas in search of a future. It’s not a defense and it’s not a takedown. It’s a field guide to a system most people only see when it’s already on fire.

We break down how Chinese migrants actually get here: social media “guides,” snakehead and coyote networks, the Ecuador-to-Darién route, and the staggering debts that trail them into American kitchens and construction sites. We talk about the quieter path—tourist visas that turn into overstay cases—and why some asylum stories sound coached while others are chillingly real. Along the way, I share why jargon kills clarity, how trauma shows up in interview rooms, and why the difference between criminal court and immigration court changes everything, from legal rights to realistic expectations.

There’s no glamour here, but there is dignity—sometimes from officers the internet loves to hate, sometimes from detainees who’ve carried more than most of us could bear. If someone you love is taken, I outline the steps that matter: don’t resist, get an immigration-specific attorney, use visitation and calls, and say less until counsel is present. We also demystify roles (ERO vs HSI), hiring myths, training standards, and why term positions complicate career decisions. The goal isn’t to make you pick a side; it’s to arm you with real context so your opinions aren’t built on clips and captions.

If this conversation helps you see the moving parts more clearly, share it with a friend, subscribe for future deep dives, and leave a review with the one question you still want answered. Your questions shape the stories we tell next.

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Yo, what's up, everyone? Welcome back to Agent Uncle. And I'm your host, Uncle Wong. So before we start, I'd like to sincerely thank our listeners. That's you, each and every one of you. Because since our launch, we've been hitting extraordinary numbers. We've had much support from you guys. And it just gives me more motivation to continue this podcast. So thank you. And because of that, um, I decided to bring you a new special today. And the topic is rather sensitive. Because being immigrants in this country, it's hard to ignore what's happening around us. This isn't just an Asian-related topic, but for everyone that's essentially an immigrant, regardless of your color. And it's obvious from my previous episodes that I'm a bit crazy. And one of my hobbies is to experience all walks of life. And hence how I worked as a pimp in China before, too. And this was a brand new experience. Just like being a pimp was a brand new experience. So around last year, uh, given that my kids are older and that I'm now semi-retired, I decided, you know, to get a part-time job like everybody else. Something respectable, more or less, but most importantly, something that I would enjoy. That's not dull and not too demanding of me physically and mentally. Make sense? Kind of like a lazy work. So out of all the jobs that I could have done with my experience or with my schooling, I decided to become an interpreter. Mainly a Chinese Mandarin interpreter. It's good pay, freelance hours, and it's a no-brainer for me. I'm really fluent in both languages, and it just comes natural to me. So after I went through all the interpreter training and became certified, I then needed to look for a job like everybody else, right? So I sent out my resume. You know, I haven't written a resume in years, and I didn't have any resume targeted towards being an interpreter either. So I didn't get many responses as you can imagine. But I did get one, and it was the first response that I got. It was a contractor from now immigration and custom enforcement. Everyone should know them as ICE. And mind you, that this is before all these crazy raids you see in the news happen. So not many people besides my family members and some close friends know that I work for them. I also live in a sanctuary state. So letting people know what I do as a side gig is probably not the best idea. And of course, whether you are a permanent employee or you're a contractor, you go through a tedious background check. And it makes you feel very uncomfortable. So any of you guys out there that have worked for the feds before, you know I'm talking about. And this background check typically goes on for months, depending on how you know how naughty you've been. And while I waited and waited, I slowly became one of the most feared and most hated federal agencies. And that brings me to the reason why I want to discuss this. Because I see a lot of misunderstandings. And I want to bring you a fresh perspective, sort of from an insider. But before we start, I want to remind you guys that I'm not paid to do marketing for them. Okay, I will speak every bit of truth, good or bad, as long as it does not breach my work contract. Okay. So that's what I can promise you right now. So, first off, there are many jobs within ice. Okay. It's not just the dudes kicking down doors and dragging people in. Most of them you'll never see. And the ones you do see, like I said before, are those burly fellows tackling people to the ground. They're mostly what you call the deportation officers or DOs. And they work within a specific branch called the ERO or the enforcement and removal operations. Okay, the people that you don't see on the streets normally are the investigators, the analysts, the legal and health professionals, and the various specialized support staff in the background, like myself. But I think of all the jobs within these departments, the most interesting part I think would be my job. Okay, because I get to work across department with almost every single one of them. And from the moment a Chinese legal is apprehended, brought in for questioning, booked into detention, health checks, and even when they appear in immigration court to argue their case, I'm that weird ass uncle eavesdropping and sneaking himself into every conversation. I know pretty much every detail of the detainee, their situation, their family, the reason for coming here, including their health. And speaking of health, one part of our interpreter training to work for ICE was actually mental health. Because obviously throughout work, we're going to hear some very traumatic stories. And I have. So I work a 28-hour weekly shift for them. That's a little bit more than I like as a side gig, but nonetheless, it really doesn't feel like work. And truth be told, I didn't want to share any of this, you know, until I saw a comment that someone left uh out of a post on some news channel. And it said, quote unquote, if he had a drop of Hispanic blood, he wouldn't be a nice agent. This was criticizing an officer. Um, obviously he's Latino, and he was arresting, quote unquote, his own. Pretty intense, huh? Oh, see, that's when I sat back and I kind of thought the same thing. You know, what others from my background, right, Chinese specifically, think of me the same. And Chinese, we have a term. It's called Han Jian. It's used specifically to describe traders that worked for the Japanese Imperial Army during World War II while China was being invaded. Okay, so the first thought that I had was that shit, man, I became a Han Jian. And that's why I pretty much kept it to myself. I don't want to share any of this. Um, obviously, I didn't share any part of my work, even with my family. But now I think it's a good time, um, better than ever, to share some honest insights with you all so that you can have a real understanding of what's going on. Because one thing that we could probably all agree on is that the media blows shit out of proportion. They always have and they always will. Okay, for instance, there's uh I read a very touching article one day. All right, it was fixated on a detainee, an illegal immigrant, and it was describing his family, uh, his loving wife, his kids. And the entire article spoke about how wrong his apprehension was, the terrible ordeal the family had to go through, um, the mental trauma, et cetera, et cetera. And it wasn't until the very end that they remembered to mention that this dude had been in jail for manslaughter and robbery 15 years ago. Okay. So that article was a waste of my time. Because what am I exactly supposed to do with that information? And what are you supposed to do with that information? Politics is what caused this division. Now I left at the U I left the US in back in 2002. So for more than 15 years. And when I came back, uh nothing was the same. Okay, Americans weren't the same, our culture wasn't the same. You know, shit, even the food wasn't the same. I saw on the news just the other day, uh, some dude got arrested for assault. You know, all because he wanted to have his voice heard and thought it'd be a good idea to throw shit at ICE agents and then make a run for it. You know, I couldn't help but ask myself, dude, why? You know, why lose your job over this and have something of your record? Even though you're not going to be charged with a felony, most likely. But you know, it's just why why are you playing this game to begin with? You know, having said that, I think everyone that joins ICE, uh, whether you're a field officer on the front lines or you're doing contract work in the back, you know, unless your ancestry is very American, uh, you more or less would feel some sort of uh what I call social pressure. You know, it's more of us being worried that people close to us won't understand that it's just a job. It's not a hobby. I've dealt with many deportation officers, uh special agents, and I'm telling you, they're just trying to do their jobs. And sometimes the other side makes it very hard for them. And when mistakes do happen, it often gets blown out of proportion. For instance, like arresting a U.S. citizen by accident, you know, using what seems like excessive force, you know, pushing a mother to the ground. Right? All these things you see on TV, on the news. And worst of all, as I'm doing this recording, someone killed Charlie Kirk. You know, I you know, I never liked him, I didn't like him. He seemed too ambitious for his age. But what he was trying to do was reverse some of the seemingly absurd ideologies that our younger generation have today, our college students. And for that, he was murdered in cold blood. Okay, this is how divided we are. This is the type of fear that we even have as you know, federal workers, politicians, you know, civil servants. So that's another reason why I'm doing this special, to let you know the truth. So you can approach this with logic and not just judgment and criticism, okay, both regarding our system and the illegals that shouldn't be here. You have to know what's going on before you judge. So, what's it like interpreting and eavesdropping into these conversations? Most people would find this part more interesting. And so I like to preface this by saying that I only deal with Chinese illegals, obviously. And for different parts of the world, the situation could be completely different. Okay, so what I'm referring to now was specifically regarding immigrants, illegal immigrants that came from China. And so the first thing I realized was that I could not use difficult words. And using legal or medical jargons just makes everybody's lives more difficult. And then throughout these conversations, it's interesting to learn that someone actually taught them how to do it, you know, told them that it could be done, and that if you followed these guidelines, you could find yourself living the American dream. And these weren't from the interrogations themselves. This was from me actually going on Chinese TikTok and surfing through. Surprisingly, I found a lot of topics and how-to related videos about how to enter the US illegally, whether it's through Saipan or Guam or through Mexico.

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And I was just astonished to see that people actually buy this shit. People actually fell for it. People actually thought they were coming here to make more money and to live a better life. And yes, you do make dollars. A dollar is worth more than one RB. But the spending is proportionate. Okay, 2,000 RB in rent, which is equivalent to like$300 here, okay, is the same as$2,000 rent here in the city. Not only that, you have to work here in fear, even before these raids. You can't speak the language, and therefore you might not even get the fair wage that you deserve. Okay, not to mention how much money you had to pay a snakehead to get here in the first place. A snakehead. I don't know if many of you heard that term before, but these are essentially human smugglers. Okay, specifically human trafficking, not drugs. And this term actually comes from the Chinese Soto. So for Chinese illegals, this term is specific to them. Now for Mexico, for instance, it's different. For the Hispanic community, it's different. They call them coyotes. It means essentially the same thing. They're the point man of a human trafficking operation. The other ones who smuggle drugs, and for instance, they're called mules. These different slang terms that you would pretty much familiarize yourself with, it's part of my job as well. And so what these stakeheads do, or these coyotes do, is that they take your money and then they plan out your entire travel. They plan out your entire itinerary. Depending on how much you pay, you would obviously get different types of services, including arrangement travels, where you how do you get from point A to point B, and how you get to the border, eventually how you cross the border and what you tell the border patrol afterwards. And if you're lucky enough, you'll find a snakehead who's well connected here, that could potentially arrange a job opportunity for you. And so how much are we talking about here? People think that trafficking a human here or trying to smuggle yourself in across the border shouldn't be too expensive, but it actually is. Surprisingly, the running rate during the pandemic was 300,000 RB, which is equivalent to roughly$42,000,$43,000 here. Some pay less, but do know that that would exponentially increase your risk of not making it. And what I mean by not making it, I will just you know I'll go into that very soon, don't worry. What I mean by not making it is not, it just doesn't mean you failed at crossing the border. It means that you literally didn't make it. That you died. Okay, or you didn't cross successfully for whatever reason. But let's say you do make it. You're one of the many that do make it. Now you're$50,000 in debt, and you will most definitely struggle to make ends meet here. Okay, how? The legals here are struggling to make ends meet. So the paradox is many argue it's inhumane. It's cruel to separate these families, to deprive them of a better life, to deprive them of an opportunity for education, etc., etc. And that ultimately us Americans should be better than that. You know what? I agree. I'm not arguing against that. But what you have to realize is that that's not the government's job. Okay, the government's job is to make sure that not everyone we pity end up here. It's for national security and not feelings. Their job is not to feel bad for the single mother who tried to cross the border with her kids in the back of a trunk. Do I feel bad at times? Of course I do. Truth be told, I I feel bad all the time. Whether their detainees are sick, uh, whether they're pleading their case, being interrogated. You know, I share that feeling, and I sometimes I would put myself in their shoes. Both their shoes. The deportation officer trying to do his job, as well as the illegal trying to plead his case. And I feel both sides. But regardless, that should not affect the way I do my job. Okay, it should not be an excuse for me not to do my job or act on impulse. Right? Because the more calm you are, the more things you're able to see and hear. And you soon realize that, wait a minute, this is not what I was told or what I imagined. And I definitely can't speak for the Chinese community, and not even a part of them. Because I don't know that many Chinese people here. But what I do know is that because of how most of us, specifically the Chinese, came here, right, we tend to have a more negative feeling towards illegal immigration. Tend to lean more conservatively, if you know what I mean. Okay, here's why. And this pertains only to the Chinese. I'm sure you've all heard of the Chinese Exclusion Act. So this was the first piece of legislature targeting Chinese immigrants specifically. They're taking our jobs, they're not welcomed here. And of course, as you all know, it was abolished. But even after that, they made it extremely difficult for Chinese nationals to come here. And how hard was it actually for instance for a Chinese person to come here if you were not related to anybody who's a citizen? Let me tell you, as an example, my father had to be accepted by an Ivy League, apply for student visa, graduate, get a job to be able to get a working visa. And then 15 years later, our family applied for citizenship. That's how a majority of legal immigrants had to do it. Work visa, student visa, and try to establish yourself professionally here. So meaning that they had to contribute first before they could take. Or at least do at the same time. So when these group of, let's say, Chinese elites, right, when they see illegals here, you know, in most cases, they're not happy. They're not happy that their hard-earned money, their taxes, their insurance, is going to feed house and educate those that didn't come here the proper way. You get what I mean? And how are we to judge whether or not that's fair? Do you think it's fair? I don't think it's fair. But people are afraid to admit it. They're afraid what others might think of them. And so you see, the problem is not ICE. It's our split ideology, often manipulated by media. So before we drift too off topic, I want to share something interesting with you. And that's how illegal Chinese aliens, immigrants get here. Specifically the Chinese. What route they take. Now there's a more dignified way to do it, and there's a less dignified way to do it. The better way to do it would be on a tourist visa. Right? Overstay and claim asylum or marry a citizen. That's all you have to do. Go to the embassy, apply for a tourist visa, look presentable, have enough savings, which is pretty minimal, by the way. Okay, around$7,000 in deposit to travel to America on a tourist visa. That's it. It's not that hard. And then the less dignified way to get here, I'm not making this up. You can see this all over YouTube. They crossed the border from South America. This was popularized, I think maybe like 2018, 2019, a little bit before the pandemic, and it exploded during the pandemic. And on these videos, you would see how they cross the border from South America or how they float across the Pacific to Saipan and Guang. And how do I learn this? Again, our social media and Chinese social media. It's all over the place. There's a step-by-step guide on how to come here and what to do after you get here, how to claim asylum, what to say, even to the judge. There's even shady websites full of job postings specifically targeted towards illegal immigration. It's ridiculous. You could see jobs from dishwasher to masseuse, you know, to hairdresser to construction worker. There's more jobs there on those websites than I see on Indeed or LinkedIn. And so let's focus on that popular route. The one that was popularized just recently. It's also the less dignified alternative, and that's trekking through South America. How do they do it? They would fly to a third country, somewhere, anywhere, with a tourist visa, and somehow end up in Ecuador. Because in Ecuador, Chinese citizens did not need a visa. And from there, you meet your snakehead, you're picked up, and you start your journey to America. If you pay the snakehead well, you get a tour guide, maybe a ride, a car, to bring you to places. And some are even flown to Mexico. They didn't have to walk across the rainforest. And if you didn't pay enough, then most likely you'd be on your own. That hike from Ecuador just to Mexico border can take weeks or even months, depending on factors like weather, border patrol, and even cartels. So from Ecuador, you go to Colombia, just north. From there, you cross the Darren Gap. That is a notorious route, which is essentially a damp jungle. It's a rainforest that you need to cross in order to get into Panama. And it doesn't end there. From there, you cross into Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Honduras, and if you're lucky, finally end up safe and sound in Mexico. Can you just imagine for a sec that you cannot speak the language and you end up in Ecuador and you have to cross like seven countries on foot with a tour guide? With your family? Right? That must be horrible. So do I feel for them? Why wouldn't I? Why wouldn't anybody? In Chinese, we call this method Zhou Xian. And it translates literally into walking the line. It's used to describe this new method of landing in Ecuador and hiking your way to America. If you type these words, walking the line, in YouTube, you'll get a great visual. And sadly to say, during these crossings, it's very dangerous. And not everybody makes it. There's threats of being killed, being kidnapped, starving to death, uh, getting sick, or simply not having enough money to proceed any further because you couldn't afford food. Can you imagine how frightening it must be for someone who does not speak the language, who never been to these parts of the country before, to have to truck their way across seven, eight countries to get here? Right, so do I feel bad for them? Of course I do. Wouldn't you? Right, you cannot pay me enough to even attempt that. But what you also have to understand is, and also very noteworthy, is the fact that who are these people? What type of people would choose this sort of method? Why not tourist visa? Right? Why not fly here? Or why not fly to Mexico? Or why do you have to trek all this way? And of course I wasn't the only curious one. The reporters that walk this line with these illegals asked them, why did you take this route? Why did you come? And that's when you would hear some absurd shit. Okay, and as a Chinese who knows China well, I can tell you right now that most of their claims is ridiculous or full of shit. You know, aside from being poor, not being able to afford the deposit or provide for their family as a reason for coming here. Besides that, many mention being persecuted. Okay, there's ones that claim to be persecuted for religious reasons. Why? Because we have a huge loophole in our country's law. And that's our very first amendment granting the freedom of religion. So technically it's not their fault, it's ours. They know how to navigate our system and to use it. And trust me, the snakeheads know full well how to exploit the system and use it to claim asylum. Once they cross the border successfully. That's how the system works. In those interviews, like you would see people claiming that they're Christians and that they were beaten by the police or persecuted by the local government. And I'm gonna tell you straight up, responsibly, that that's full of shit. China has more problems to worry about than whether or not an outcast from his own society believes in Jesus our Savior. They only care about Christianity, for instance, not becoming a cult. They don't care whether or not you go to church on Sundays. They don't. So this claim is just ridiculous in my mind. It might make sense to you, but not to me. And you know how I know this? Because I almost got myself into similar shit. Almost, I think, 15 years ago, I got into some little bit of trouble for doing the same thing, except it was more extreme. Me and my wife decided it would be a good idea to visit the Dalai Lama in India. Of course, it didn't matter to me because I'm a US citizen. By the time she was a Chinese citizen, so she had to get a visa. And obviously, the Chinese government does not like their citizens visiting the Dalai Lama. We could get to that in some in a different topic. And so what happened was my wife got a call from the police. They asked her some questions. Like, why are you going there? What's the purpose of your trip? And most importantly, are you going to see the Dalai Lama? And so my wife answered, we're just going to visit as a tourist. And that was that. I ended up meeting the Dalai Lama without much trouble. So did my wife. We didn't get our asses kicked, we didn't get locked up, we didn't get persecuted. And of course, if you're funding the Tibetan government, the ousted Tibetan government, that'd be a whole different story. It's just like if you were to fund a terrorist group here in the United States. Right now, if China doesn't care about its rich citizens visiting the Daiai Lama, what possible reason would they care about these illegals going to church? And yes, China has many churches. Believe it or not. You have to register under the Chinese government, obviously, but then you can have your own church. Not being able to practice Christianity is not a reason. And so Chin so the Chinese is only one ethnic group. And they stand as not a big percentage of the total uh amount of illegals that enter the country here. So you can imagine all the different reasons why everybody else would come. The pressure it puts on our economy, despite some of his advantages. Because if it would happen to you, you might not get the same pity. And talking about persecution. Some indeed are persecuted. But normally it would not be for your religious belief. It would be because you step on somebody's toes, you're wealthy, famous, one or the other. I actually have an acquaintance. Not a close friend, but just like a business acquaintance. He was recently taken after going to an asylum interview. He's taken by ICE. He's one of the richest men I know. So for a fact, I know he can't return to China because he is definitely being persecuted. That's at least a legitimate excuse, don't you think? Oh, but it's all fun and games until you or somebody close to you, like a family member, gets taken. So I like to spend a little time just talking about what to do if that does happen. So if somebody close to you, like I mentioned before, gets apprehended or gets approached by uh immigration or border patrol, whatever the case might be, first off, do not panic. Do not resist arrest. That never ends well. Even if you're a citizen, and you get snatched by a mistake, God forbid. Just think of this as, I don't know, a job fare or something. Alright, once they know that you are a citizen, they will let you out. I don't know what else to tell you. Okay, they have their orders, and they will take you regardless, unless you're fast enough to outrun them. Alright? That's just a simple truth. And two, know your rights and how to get access to assistance. Okay, whether it's for you or for somebody else. In other words, get an immigration-specific attorney. ICE detention is not prison. Okay, people are allowed to visit. Nearly anyone. Legal representatives have more flexibility. But you'll have to check the availability at each detention center. Everyone's different. They can make phone calls, they can see doctors. So there's no need to panic. It's not like a basement-style kidnap where you're deprived of basic necessities. It's not like that. Number three, the detention center is, although it's not prison, it's not comfortable either. Okay. But at least you won't be surrounded by violent criminals. And as for the officers and staff that worked there, I can responsibly say that I have never experienced an officer agent or a contractor working under ice that treated detainees without dignity. And some were honestly surprisingly nice. You know, they were making jokes. There was actually laughter in the room that, you know, where they shouldn't be. So that was something that I experienced was that was interesting, where I felt, wow, it's not, you know, it's not what you see in the news. Like they clamp you down, they they beat your ass, and then they interrogate you. It's not like that. Okay, so that brings me to number four. What happens after you're detained? Well, you are going to enter into immigration court. And it's worth noting that immigration court is not criminal court. Okay, so it's still part of our civil law system. And it's not under our judicial system, it is under the Department of Justice, the Executive Branch. Specifically, the Executive Office for Immigration Review. And because it's a civil case, they will not appoint you a lawyer. You have to find one yourself. Okay? And let me remind you that self-representing or going pro se in immigration court is statistically a bad idea. Don't get a free lawyer either if you can afford better one. Because it's more than likely that you don't know shit about immigration law and that's how you ended up there in the first place. Okay, last but not least, watch what you say. Don't cause more trouble for yourself and for the dude across from you. If they say you have the right to remain silent, take the offer. If they say you have the right to not answer, then don't. Don't make this harder than it is. So last but not least, a bit of advice for those that are considering joining ICE. Uh don't join unless you are ready and you're capable. It's not for everyone, and enough people have honestly applied. Okay, read the job description carefully. Not all jobs are cool that involve carrying a weapon. If you don't enjoy for the right reasons, then don't do it. A shit bag officer is the last person we want wearing a badge. The hiring process is often misunderstood too. Just recently, remember, uh they changed the age requirement for uh deportation officers from under 40 to now under 60. And like I mentioned before, ICE has a lot of department staff, okay, a lot of support staff too. And the ones you see on the news on the streets are normally the uh ERO, as I mentioned before, the enforcement removal, or the HSI, or human uh sorry, uh Homeland Security Investigations. So EROs have uh what you call the DOs or the deportation officers. And HSI, which is the investigative arm of ISA. They have the criminal investigators and what we call the special agents. As of now, they might be doing the same jobs, but essentially it's different. Okay, so Google it if you're interested. Uh, we won't go too much in depth here. But let's take deportation officers, for instance, the DOs, okay, which is the only position the ICE currently has opened for people over 40 and under 60, as of this recording. Okay. And uh let me tell you, it's it's not an easy job. Okay, you have to go through almost six months of basic training before you even swear in. Okay, that training is called the ICE Academy or the Basic Immigration Law Enforcement Training Program. It's rather physical. The instructors uh typically come from Border Patrol. They're uh pretty tough. It's gonna feel like military boot camp if you've ever been there. So if you're out of shape, if you have a shady record, you won't qualify, or you probably won't pass. That background check, of course, again, it will make you feel mighty uncomfortable. Just be prepared to tell them everything. And what's what's unattractive about this position for me specifically is that it's uh well, besides kicking down doors and stuff, it's not my thing, is that it's also a term position, meaning that you have to go through all this training, um, do all the stuff, uh, but you're only appointed in a term position, meaning that if the job doesn't require you anymore, then it won't be permanent. So, having said that, it's not like the South Park episode where they're pulling just random dudes off the streets to become officers. Okay, it's nothing like that. That's another uh kind of ridiculous thing we see now in the media. You know, and if you don't believe me, write up a resume and submit it. Okay, see if they see if you get a call. Right? That's the the most direct way to see if something is nonsense. So I hope everybody found this special interesting. Um, again, this kind of came out of nowhere, right? The reason why I want to do this special is because I wanted to give you a glimpse of what it's really like, the truth, and not just blindly trust the media. And most of the stuff I'm telling you now, it's public information. Plus a little bit of my personal experience. Sort of, again, to help everybody navigate. And as I navigate this interpreter gig, I'll definitely update you with stories because ICE is not the only law enforcement agency that I work for. Uh, both me and some of my colleagues, we work for different agencies like DEA, ATF, FBI, or even the local police, border patrol. So there's a lot of things that we come across every day that normal people don't get to see. And so I thought that would be interesting, something that everybody, I hope you're interested in. But uh thanks for tuning in. Uh join me next time. Peace.

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